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Dev121 · Oct 22, 2007, 11:40 PM // 23:40

Theres been so much debate about the usefulness of Paragons and today I finally got around to making one myself and they are alot of fun to play also I dont think there too useless and can quickly assist teams unlike more caster/spirit based classes a paragon can chant and shout and buff the team so quickly and make alot of fights a complete breeze. So has nerfing made you give up the profession or is there still a large amount of Paragon lovers?

P:S It would be nice to see them buffed abit but in all honesty they are far from useless.

Lagg · Oct 23, 2007, 12:40 AM // 00:40

"There's Nothing to Fear!"

"They're on Fire!"

Anthem of Flame

Anthem of Weariness

"They're on Fire!"

Anthem of Flame

Anthem of Weariness

"There's Nothing to Fear!"

"They're on Fire!"

Anthem of Flame

Anthem of Weariness

"They're on Fire!"

Anthem of Flame

Anthem of Weariness

"There's Nothing to Fear!"

"They're on Fire!"

Anthem of Flame

Anthem of Weariness

Also chugs Spears.

Actually an okay profession, just not properly balanced and not terribly indispensable. Trying to keep Mending Refrain up on your entire party is as fun as having your eyes poked out. Continously.

"Please stay within earshot... Do you still have SuperMending? And you? Okay... Please stay within earshot you're going to miss an Anthem... No I can't see whether or not you have it... Please stay within earshot..."

Yeah, I can see why people don't like them as a Support class.

Neo Nugget · Oct 23, 2007, 12:54 AM // 00:54

I started playing my paragon again, i forgot how much fun they were

Whiskeyjack · Oct 23, 2007, 01:00 AM // 01:00

Paragon's are undoubtedly one of the most powerful professions in both formats of play. I wouldn't pay to much attention to all whines about paragons, we had the same thing with necro's when SR was nerfed despite the fact soul reaping is still horribly broken.
The only hurdle paragons face is the ignorance of PUG's who do not uderstand the power of the class. Good luck with your para and i hope you continue to enjoy it.

Bryant Again · Oct 23, 2007, 01:24 AM // 01:24

Mine's still overpowered as ever in PvE.

You can't see me · Oct 23, 2007, 01:38 AM // 01:38

I have yet to bring my Paragon into some of the more challenging situations in the game, he is an LS character, and only 100k away from the title. I couldn't really say whether he is over powered or not, as I don't use him in challenging combat yet.

Onarik Amrak · Oct 23, 2007, 01:42 AM // 01:42

Those echo skills for allies I'll never use.

I mean, honestly, who has the uber-micro skillz to keep them on everyone?

There's no way to keep track of who has it on and who hasn't unless you're an NPC.

draxynnic · Oct 23, 2007, 02:19 AM // 02:19

I don't think the intent was ever for echoes on allies to be maintained between combats, just to last through the combat. That said, it is possible to keep them on everbody by staying within earshot of them all and popping off an anthem every ten seconds.

One of my guildies responded to the patch with the line "Life after Aggressive Refrain: Oddly liberating". I (coincidentially) haven't played my Para since the nerf, but I can certainly see how it could be a lot less tedious than having to spam Anthem of Flame/Fury every ten seconds, in and out of combat, to keep the refrains up. I get enough of the stop-start play with the MM.

Another of my guildies is still maintaining a pile of echoes on the entire party with his Paragon, but I'd personally rather fill my skill slots with things I can actually do rather than things I have to maintain.

Grunntar · Oct 23, 2007, 02:26 AM // 02:26

I love my Paragon. She's the only one to make Legendary Survivor for me. My Assassin died just before getting Survivor, and my Rit and Dervish half way to Indomitable Survivor. But the Paragon, cake!

In fact, I got through all three campaigns, seven maxed titles, and almost all of the way through GW:EN before she died. That's 3.2 million XP! And if I weren't with friends, I would have made it out of Oola's Lab and kept going... But I didn't want to do that to them, and have to restart the dungeon.

I think they are the most survivable class of them all. (Given the right build...)

- Grunntar

GloryFox · Oct 23, 2007, 02:38 AM // 02:38

Yup about as fun now as an Assassin when Factions was first released.

Also about as wanted too.

Yup Para's are liked and wanted in Elite missions and groups now.

/sarcasm

Dean Harper · Oct 23, 2007, 03:33 AM // 03:33

dunno about others, but i really got bored w/ mine. It was fun for about the first half of NF, and then I about had to shoot myself. Mesmers ftw!

RPGmaniac · Oct 23, 2007, 05:16 AM // 05:16

I couldn't make it off Istan with my paragon. Probably not enough time to really learn how to play them in PvE, but it was just too boring for me.

But with all this talk I hear about how good they can be in PvE, I've been experimenting with Paragon heroes a little bit, and they seem to be a solid class even with the recent nerfs.

Marth Reynolds · Oct 23, 2007, 07:55 AM // 07:55

Theyre still going quite good imo, anthem of weariness is the new gem for teh paragons imo.. mass weakness with a proper teambuild ^^

paras are a little on the boring side with just having to spam most skills imo, but it's nice to support the team

XiaoTheBlade · Oct 23, 2007, 03:16 PM // 15:16

I made my paragon just over 2 weeks ago, and just been playing with him, I enjoy playing with him and still haven't died yet

Even almost completed eye of the north, and am at Realm of Torment in nightfall.

http://i20.tinypic.com/14cefd3.jpg

Ninian_Grace · Oct 23, 2007, 04:00 PM // 16:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryant Again

Mine's still overpowered as ever in PvE.

I would be curious to see what build you use. O.o

I still enjoy playing mine...ALOT. its about the only character I play...

I am planning on making him my title hoe. he is worth over 400K already so...I can't really just let him go...

I couldn't say he is OVERPOWERED in PvE. Mine was GOING to be a LS character but I died in Frostmaw's Lair. the first dungeon I have made when EotN came out. didn't think it was that hard...

''HOLY CRAP! 5 FROST WURMS AND 1 FROSTMAW SPAWN!!'' *25x wurm bile*

- Wtf...

Lost my title at 880K exp...funny part is that I did it maybe a couple weeks later and I didn't die...

Anyways, Bryant...if you could either post or PM me that build you use. I would be very greatfull.

XiaoTheBlade · Oct 23, 2007, 04:24 PM // 16:24

My build works quite nicely (in screenshot above)

When against destroyers replace anthem of flame with another skill.
When not against torment stuff replace lightbringers gaze with something else.

knoll · Oct 23, 2007, 10:34 PM // 22:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryFox

Yup about as fun now as an Assassin when Factions was first released.

Also about as wanted too.

Yup Para's are liked and wanted in Elite missions and groups now.

/sarcasm

you're terrible, stop posting, lrn2imbagon

Silly Warrior · Oct 23, 2007, 11:35 PM // 23:35

Please, no more wining about how horrible paragons are. Please only discuss the pros and cons, without sarcasm.

Thanks. ( I deleted my paragon, but still love them

)

street peddler · Oct 24, 2007, 12:11 AM // 00:11

i like them...if only for that one build (god mode engage)

bungusmaximus · Oct 24, 2007, 06:02 AM // 06:02

Paragons goooood, really, I use them in a few hero builds of mine and the're very, very nice. They're especially good at keeping the team clean of hexes and conditions, because the hench monks usually kinda suck at that. The paragon can boost defenses AND do damage at the same time, and their energy seems to be endless.

If only they didn't do such a dirty hack job on aggressive refrain, they should just have lowered the armor, but applying cracked armor every time the chant refreshes is just ridiculous.